{"id":75008,"date":"2024-02-09T16:12:48","date_gmt":"2024-02-09T16:12:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/09\/social-networks-are-getting-stingy-with-their-data-leaving-third-party-developers-in-the-lurch-techcrunch\/"},"modified":"2024-02-09T16:12:48","modified_gmt":"2024-02-09T16:12:48","slug":"social-networks-are-getting-stingy-with-their-data-leaving-third-party-developers-in-the-lurch-techcrunch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2024\/02\/09\/social-networks-are-getting-stingy-with-their-data-leaving-third-party-developers-in-the-lurch-techcrunch\/","title":{"rendered":"Social networks are getting stingy with their data, leaving third-party developers in the lurch | TechCrunch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\"><span class=\"featured__span-first-words\">2023 was the<\/span> year social networks realized that they were sitting on massive troves of data. And some companies, such as Twitter (now X) and Reddit, decided to change their terms to shut out third-party experiences on these platforms. In the process, they also put a price on their data \u2014 something they believe is highly valuable today as it can be used to train AI models.<\/p>\n<p>After talking to several third-party developers who built apps and services on top of these larger social networks, we learned that there are mixed feelings among the developers about building experiences around social networks. While they are excited about the rise of decentralized networks, some of them haven\u2019t seen enough incentives to build out new apps.<\/p>\n<h2>The APIcalypse<\/h2>\n<p>Twitter has historically been one of the most popular social networks when it comes to third-party apps. Some of those apps even pre-date the name \u201ctweet.\u201d In January, however, the company <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/01\/19\/twitter-officially-bans-third-party-clients-after-cutting-off-prominent-devs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">started to shut out these clients without any notice<\/a>. Within days, in typical Elon Musk style, the social network <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/01\/19\/twitter-officially-bans-third-party-clients-after-cutting-off-prominent-devs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">silently changed its developer terms<\/a> to effectively shut down third-party apps.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1693181\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1693181\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Twitterrific was one of the earliest Twitter clients. <strong>Image Credit:<\/strong> Twitterrific<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>In the following months, the company shuttered free access to its API and raised prices for other tiers. These new prices and limitations were so high that some third-party experiences, such as automatic alert posting services and research, suffered alongside the third-party clients. It only made sense to develop a paid application for teams and enterprises to bear costs as high as $42,000 per month for enterprise-tier access.<\/p>\n<p>In contrast, Reddit gave notice to developers about <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/04\/18\/reddit-will-begin-charging-for-access-to-its-api\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">changing its API terms in April<\/a>. However, in May, Christian Selig, the developer of the popular iOS client Apollo, had a call with the company where he learned that the cost demanded by the platform was so high that his app would go out of business. Following that news, many <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/06\/14\/hundreds-of-subreddits-plan-to-go-dark-indefinitely-after-reddit-ceos-internal-memo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">subreddits staged blackouts in protest<\/a>. Reddit CEO Steve Huffman gave multiple interviews defending the changes made by the company and Reddit started forcing rebel moderators out<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>by <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/06\/22\/reddit-is-battling-against-moderators-marking-their-communities-nsfw\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">removing them from moderator posts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2398258\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2398258\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2398258\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"apollo-reddit-lockscreen\" width=\"680\" height=\"383\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg 1182w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg?resize=150,84 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg?resize=300,169 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg?resize=768,432 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg?resize=680,383 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/09\/apollo-reddit-lockscreen.jpg?resize=50,28 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2398258\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Image Credits:<\/strong> Apollo app image by TechCrunch<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>As Reddit implemented its API changes, many apps, including <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/06\/08\/popular-third-party-reddit-app-apollo-is-shutting-down-as-a-result-of-reddits-new-api-pricing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/06\/08\/popular-third-party-reddit-app-apollo-is-shutting-down-as-a-result-of-reddits-new-api-pricing\/\">Apollo<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/redditisfun\/comments\/144gmfq\/rif_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023_in_response_to\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/redditisfun\/comments\/144gmfq\/rif_will_shut_down_on_june_30_2023_in_response_to\/\">RIF<\/a>\u00a0(Reddit is Fun),\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/reactnative\/comments\/13yddho\/comment\/jmrz0n4\/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=web2x&amp;context=3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/reactnative\/comments\/13yddho\/comment\/jmrz0n4\/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=web2x&amp;context=3\">ReddPlanet<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/redditsync\/comments\/14ndm8y\/it_is_gone\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/redditsync\/comments\/14ndm8y\/it_is_gone\/\">Sync<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/baconreader\/comments\/14egq61\/baconreader_november_11_2011_june_30_2023\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/baconreader\/comments\/14egq61\/baconreader_november_11_2011_june_30_2023\/\">BaconReader<\/a> shut down. Some apps like Narwhal remained available with a subscription model, while RedReader, Dystopia and Luna were exempted from API changes because they provided accessibility features without any commercialization.<\/p>\n<p>Narwhal developer Rick Harrison, who is also the co-founder and CTO of YC-backed dispensary software <a href=\"https:\/\/getmeadow.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Meadow<\/a>, told TechCrunch that he plans to maintain his Reddit client.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have continued developing this app because I primarily make this app for myself. I originally made Narwhal before Reddit even had an app and I wanted one for my daily commute. Now, I continue working on it as a side project, because I find it fun, and I have a small community of users who also enjoy the app,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, Selig, who had to stop the development of the more popular Reddit client Apollo, isn\u2019t bullish on continued collaboration between social media companies and developers. He calls that era \u201ca bit of a distant memory.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe challenges and the severity of them depend on the host platform and their willingness to have developers on their platform, within those constraints, things can go either very smoothly or with great difficulty,\u201d Selig said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor instance with Reddit, at the beginning, they were very communicative with developers and the development of the API, however in recent years they instead chose to use a different API internally and no longer use the \u2018traditional\u2019 API that developers depended on, which meant it was effectively left to languish with bugs and missing features.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Industry observers noted that social networks have gradually closed down their platforms for third-party apps. Tom Coates, the co-founder of an older decentralized app called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetary.social\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/www.planetary.social\/\">Planetary<\/a>, told TechCrunch that social apps were open to allow third-party experiences in the early days of the social web, but over time, platforms like Instagram have proved that closed ecosystems are beneficial.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOther platforms have been a bit more reliable, but the early spirit of trying to grow the whole ecosystem and to become a good citizen in a wider environment has kind of gone from the corporate social world,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<h2>Social networks want to protect their data from AI<\/h2>\n<p>Both Reddit and Twitter put restrictions on their APIs to better monetize the data of their social networks. Apart from introducing new limits on APIs, Musk also <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/07\/01\/twitter-imposes-limits-on-the-number-of-tweets-users-can-read-amid-extended-outage\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">limited the number of posts in July 2023<\/a> users can view in a day as a measure to \u201caddress extreme levels of data scraping.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Last September, the company <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/09\/08\/x-updates-its-terms-to-ban-crawling-and-scraping\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">updated its policy to ban scraping and crawling<\/a>. Plus, the updated policy allowed <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/09\/01\/xs-privacy-policy-confirms-it-will-use-public-data-to-train-ai-models\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">X to train AI models through public data<\/a>. In November, Musk\u2019s new <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/11\/03\/musk-says-twitter-subscribers-will-get-early-access-to-xais-chatbot-grok\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AI company called xAI launched Grok<\/a>, an AI chatbot, to leverage that data. Later in December, subscribers of <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/12\/08\/xs-ai-chatbot-grok-now-rolled-out-to-all-u-s-premium-subscribers-english-language-users-are-next\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">X\u2019s highest-paid tier Premium+ got access to this chatbot<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Reddit also put gates around its data to stop AI companies from using it to train models. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/04\/18\/technology\/reddit-ai-openai-google.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an interview with The New York Times<\/a> in April, CEO Steven Huffman said that companies need to pay to use Reddit\u2019s data \u2014 something that\u2019s valuable not only to AI companies like OpenAI, but also Google Search, which <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/09\/28\/google-search-now-queries-reddit-and-quora-in-response-to-open-ended-questions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">users in recent years<\/a> have been hacking to get less spammy results by adding \u201creddit\u201d to their search queries.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,\u201d Huffman told The NYT. \u201cBut we don\u2019t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1779701\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1779701\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1779701\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"492\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg 4724w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=150,108 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=300,217 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=768,555 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=680,492 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=1536,1110 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=2048,1481 2048w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=1200,867 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/GettyImages-871654354.jpg?resize=50,36 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1779701\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reddit CEO Steve Huffman delivers remarks on \u201cRedesigning Reddit\u201d during the third day of Web Summit in Altice Arena on November 8, 2017 in Lisbon, Portugal. <strong>Image Credits:<\/strong> Horacio Villalobos \u2013 Corbis \/ Contributor \/ Getty Images<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Weeks later, when Reddit was at a crossroads with third-party developers, in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2023\/6\/15\/23762868\/reddit-ceo-steve-huffman-interview\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an interview with The Verge<\/a>, the CEO of Reddit said that the social network\u2019s API was never meant to support third-party clients.<\/p>\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p>\u201c[Reddit\u2019s API] was never designed to support third-party apps. We let it exist. And I should take the blame for that because I was the guy arguing for that for a long time. But I didn\u2019t know \u2014 and this is my fault \u2014 the extent that they were profiting off of our API. That these were not charities,\u201d he noted.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h2>The new wave of social networks<\/h2>\n<p>The change in guard at X\/Twitter gave birth to new social networks like <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/07\/24\/what-is-bluesky-everything-to-know-about-the-app-trying-to-replace-twitter\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bluesky<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/12\/16\/spill-twitter-alternative\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spill<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/10\/24\/pebble-the-twitter-alternative-previously-known-as-t2-is-closing-down\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pebble (now discontinued)<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/11\/28\/post-news-twitter-alternative-a16z\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Post<\/a> and Meta-owned Instagram Threads. While the decentralized network Mastodon has been around since 2016, it gained new prominence in the social sphere, as well.<\/p>\n<p>After Twitter booted longtime third-party developers, many of them <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/12\/05\/third-party-twitter-app-makers-turn-their-attention-to-mastodon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">began building Mastodon clients<\/a>, in fact: Tapbots (which built Tweetbot) introduced a Mastodon app called <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/01\/24\/tapbots-launches-a-new-mastodon-client-ivory-after-twitter-kills-its-tweetbot-app\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ivory<\/a>; Shihab Mehboob (who developed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theaviary.app\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-mrf-link=\"https:\/\/www.theaviary.app\/\">Aviary<\/a>) built <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/02\/27\/mammoth-is-a-free-mastodon-app-for-ios-that-makes-it-easier-to-get-started\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mammoth<\/a>, which is now <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/02\/28\/mozilla-leads-mastodon-app-mammoths-pre-seed-funding\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">under different management<\/a>; and Matteo Villa (who built Fenix) is focusing on <a href=\"https:\/\/apps.apple.com\/us\/app\/woolly-for-mastodon\/id6444360628\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Woolly<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2638869\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2638869\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2638869\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?w=680\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png 4128w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=150,100 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=680,453 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=2048,1365 2048w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=1200,800 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Mammoth-on-screen-4.png?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2638869\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Image Credits:<\/strong> Mammoth<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Mehboob is bullish about Mastodon\u2019s future and told TechCrunch that the open ecosystem helps developers make different experiences.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMastodon is my new favorite when it comes to third-party app support as it\u2019s so open. There are no real restrictions apart from rate limiting and pagination \u2014 which exist on all social media apps to prevent abuse of the API. Their documentation is also great,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Bluesky, another Twitter competitor that has <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/02\/06\/as-bluesky-opens-to-the-public-ceo-jay-graber-faces-her-biggest-challenge-yet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">just launched publicly<\/a>, found some promising traction with third-party developers. Despite the closed ecosystem, developers have started making mobile clients like <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/10\/12\/bluesky-gets-its-first-third-party-mobile-app-with-graysky-launching-later-this-month\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Graysky<\/a> and multi-column desktop apps such as <a href=\"https:\/\/skydeck.social\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Skydeck<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/blueskydeck.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Blueskydeck<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2656449\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2656449\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2656449\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"Bluesky CEO Jay Graber speaks at the Knight Foundation's Informed conference\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=150,100 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=680,453 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=1200,800 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/jay-graber-bluesky.jpg?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2656449\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bluesky CEO Jay Graber speaks at the Knight Foundation\u2019s Informed conference. <strong>Image Credits:<\/strong> Marco Bello and Eva Marie for the Knight Foundation<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Samuel Newman, the developer of Graysky, said that platforms like Bluesky and Mastodon provide the same tools and APIs to third-party devs as the ones they use to build their official apps. However, as companies race to achieve feature parity with existing networks while also trying to remain unique and differentiated from one another, the pace of changes is rapid.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBluesky and the AT Protocol [the decentralized protocol used by Bluesky] are very much in active development, meaning things are moving fast and you have to keep up with any changes that might come up,\u201d Newman said. \u201cHowever, it\u2019s built around a very strict schema, which means I can generally trust what data will be received.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2613818\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2613818\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2613818\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg 944w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg?resize=150,138 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg?resize=300,276 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg?resize=768,706 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg?resize=680,625 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/graysky-2.jpg?resize=50,46 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2613818\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Image Credits:<\/strong> Graysky<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Mastodon and Bluesky seem to have embraced third-party clients for now, but the growth of these social networks will be critical for developers. Third-party clients will need a significant audience of potential users to earn a sustainable income, but Mastodon currently has just 1.5 million monthly active users across instances while Bluesky now has <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/02\/07\/despite-outages-bluesky-gets-nearly-800k-new-users-in-its-first-day-open-to-the-public\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">nearly 4 million users after launching publicly this week<\/a>. In November, Bluesky said that the <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/11\/16\/x-rival-bluesky-hits-2m-users-saying-federation-coming-early-next-year\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">federation is coming in 2024<\/a>, which means others can build different servers based on the AT Protocol leading to different servers and services with varied features and moderation rules.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Weaving the Thread(s)<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>The largest player in this new wave of social networks is Meta\u2019s Threads, which has more <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/02\/01\/threads-now-reaches-more-130-million-monthly-users-says-meta-up-30m-from-q3\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">than 130 million active users<\/a> after opening up to EU-based users late last year. The app has started <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/12\/13\/meta-starts-testing-threads-integration-with-activitypub\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">experimenting with ActivityPub integration<\/a> so users on Mastodon and other compatible social networks can view Threads posts. What\u2019s more, Instagram has <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/10\/27\/instagram-head-says-threads-api-is-in-the-works\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">started work on a Threads API<\/a> which will be limited to posting at first.<\/p>\n<p>Isaac Shea, who is working on <a href=\"https:\/\/threaditor.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Threaditor<\/a>, a draft post saver for Threads, said his biggest worry was platforms copying features from third-party apps rather than acquiring or working with them.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy biggest worry is not API maintenance \u2014 although keeping up with changing APIs can be a pain \u2014 but more being Sherlocked by the parent platform, intentionally or not,\u201d he said, using a term that defines a time when <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/06\/12\/all-the-things-apple-sherlocked-at-wwdc-2023\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple bakes features similar to an existing app into its own system<\/a>.\u00a0In recent years I have felt a trend away from acquiring or working with third-party developers, in favor of replicating and drowning them,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2585630\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2585630\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2585630\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"The Threads logo on a laptop arranged in the Brookl\" width=\"680\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg 4000w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=150,100 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=680,453 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=2048,1365 2048w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=1200,800 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/threads-desktop-GettyImages-1524135861.jpg?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2585630\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Threads logo on a laptop. <strong>Photographer:<\/strong> Gabby Jones\/Bloomberg via Getty Images<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Though Meta has shown a willingness to work on a Threads API, it\u2019s not clear if it will allow alternative Threads clients to flourish \u2014 especially when the company has a track record of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.androidpolice.com\/2021\/04\/18\/facebook-bullies-third-party-apps-swipe-and-simple-social-into-oblivion\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">shutting down third-party apps<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/10\/10\/google-removes-the-og-app-from-the-play-store-as-founders-think-about-next-steps\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">made for its social networks<\/a>. Third-party clients usually don\u2019t feature ads, which is Meta\u2019s main revenue source.<\/p>\n<p>Coates, who is an active advocate of decentralized systems, said that if the Mastodon ecosystem (or any decentralized ecosystem) grows, we will see more third-party services thrive such as moderation companies, scalable hosting companies, CSAM scanning services, identity providers and wallet integrations.<\/p>\n<p>As he wrote in detail on <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/01\/12\/threads-will-allow-you-to-follow-mastodon-users-by-year-end-according-to-meta-meeting-details\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">his blog<\/a>, he noted that Threads starting with ActivityPub integration doesn\u2019t automatically mean that we\u2019ll see a flourishing ecosystem of apps by default.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAgain though, the integration of Threads into this ecosystem doesn\u2019t necessarily equate to a larger market \u2014 as Meta may not need to use many of the back-end services, and most likely will not initially allow their users to use alternative clients,\u201d Coates said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOn the other hand, Meta\u2019s integration may cause a lot more <i>interest<\/i> in self-hosting and other companies and communities may join the larger Mastodon ecology and that <i>would<\/i> increase the opportunities and possibility for services and products of this kind,\u201d he noted.<\/p>\n<h2>Money-making through apps<\/h2>\n<p>Developers like Selig, who have been burnt by social networks, don\u2019t want to rely too much on social platforms to make money going forward.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUnless you have a contract that is willing to lock in the terms for at least a brief period of time \u2014 Reddit was unwilling to do this, for instance \u2014 I wouldn\u2019t rely on them whatsoever. As we\u2019ve seen, platform stewards can change their mind at the drop of a hat with next to no notice to developers,\u201d Selig said. \u201cHowever, if you\u2019re able to establish a good relationship with a platform \u2014 built on writing, not just promises \u2014 it can be a great opportunity that is a lot of fun to work on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Shea and Newman\u2019s apps are early into their journeys. While Threaditor doesn\u2019t have a paid model yet, Graysky has just started offering a premium subscription.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2663203\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2663203\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2663203\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg 2880w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=150,64 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=300,127 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=768,326 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=680,289 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=1536,652 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=2048,869 2048w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=1200,509 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Screenshot-2024-02-09-at-4.58.54-PM.jpg?resize=50,21 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2663203\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Threaditor helps you write long threads and save them.<strong> Image Credits:<\/strong> Threaditor<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Bart Decrem, who acquired the app, and now continues to develop Mammoth, admits that platforms often disappoint developers. But he\u2019s hopeful because of the open nature of Mastodon.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019re far better off as a third-party developer if you\u2019re building on an open protocol and\/or open source project. ActivityPub and Mastodon are a perfect example. But of course, one famous example is email, with a thriving developer ecosystem,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>The Iconfactory\u2019s principal developer Ged Maheux told TechCrunch that the company has learned to diversify its revenue across different apps after the bad experience of Twitterific\u2019s shutdown.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe learned this lesson the hard way, of course, pinning so much of our revenue on an app that hinged on API access controlled by a third party. Since then we\u2019ve been working hard to spread our eggs across multiple baskets, which is good advice for anyone developing for social I think,\u201d Maheux said.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2658783\" style=\"width: 690px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2658783\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2658783\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png?w=680\" alt=\"project tapestry splash screen\" width=\"680\" height=\"383\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png 1024w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png?resize=150,84 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png?resize=300,169 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png?resize=768,432 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png?resize=680,383 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/project-tapestry.png?resize=50,28 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\"\/><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-2658783\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Image Credits:<\/strong> The Iconfactory<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Earlier this week, Maheux and Iconfactory began <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/iconfactory\/project-tapestry\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a new Kickstarter campaign<\/a> for <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/01\/30\/twitterrifics-team-is-back-with-tapestry-an-app-for-tracking-social-media-news-rss-and-more\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a new app called Tapestry<\/a>, which will allow you to connect your social media accounts and RSS feeds through a chronological timeline. Naturally, there is no support for X in the app.<\/p>\n<p>Legacy social networks closing their doors to developers have given way to a new brand of clients \u2014 largely focusing on decentralized platforms. Social platforms like Mastodon and Bluesky have promised that they will support the development of alternative experiences. For users, it\u2019s hard to keep up with new social networks springing up frequently. Their best bet is that <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/02\/07\/how-twitters-descent-into-chaos-is-paving-the-way-for-a-new-web\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">developers trying to create bridges between these social networks<\/a> by trying to implement cross-posting or bringing all feeds together will be able to do so without platforms shutting them down.<\/p>\n<p><em>If you work at any of the social networks, or a developer trying to build something around social media platforms I\u2019d love to hear from you on im@ivanmehta.com.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/02\/09\/social-network-api-apps-twitter-reddit-threads-mastodon-bluesky\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2023 was the year social networks realized that they were sitting on massive troves of data. 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