{"id":65257,"date":"2023-12-29T18:01:42","date_gmt":"2023-12-29T18:01:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2023\/12\/29\/facing-roadblocks-chinas-robotaxi-darlings-apply-the-brakes-techcrunch\/"},"modified":"2023-12-29T18:01:42","modified_gmt":"2023-12-29T18:01:42","slug":"facing-roadblocks-chinas-robotaxi-darlings-apply-the-brakes-techcrunch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2023\/12\/29\/facing-roadblocks-chinas-robotaxi-darlings-apply-the-brakes-techcrunch\/","title":{"rendered":"Facing roadblocks, China&#8217;s robotaxi darlings apply the brakes | TechCrunch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\"><span class=\"featured__span-first-words\">A few years<\/span> ago, robotaxis were the darlings of venture capitalists in China. A cadre of audacious startups, including Deeproute.ai, WeRide.ai, Pony.ai and Momenta reeled in hundreds of millions of dollars to fuel their costly ambitions. With pockets overflowing, they spent generously on building self-driving vehicle fleets. Their geeky executives, swapping T-shirts for sharp suits, cozied up to local officials and nudged policymaking in their favor.<\/p>\n<p>As these companies\u2019 valuations continued to climb, however, a sobering reality dawned upon them: the widespread commercialization of robotaxis remains a distant horizon. In the meantime, monetization has become more urgent as their lofty price tags become prohibitive for most investors. Compounding their funding dilemma, the prospect of going public in the U.S., a conventional exit route for Chinese tech firms, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/11\/25\/fate-of-us-venture-capital-in-china\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">has dimmed amidst escalating geopolitical tensions<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike some of their American counterparts that are buoyed by moneyed patrons, namely, Alphabet\u2019s Waymo and General Motors\u2019 Cruise, China\u2019s robotaxi upstarts, including the autonomous vehicle arm under internet giant Baidu, find themselves eagerly seeking alternative revenue streams. As the need to survive eclipses their once-vaunted dream of removing the human driver, China\u2019s robotaxi companies shift to less advanced but more commercially viable smart-driving solutions.<\/p>\n<h2>Cash-burning robotaxis<\/h2>\n<p>Despite years of hype and progress in self-driving technologies, the widespread availability of robotaxis remains a distant reality. That\u2019s due to a confluence of challenges, including safety, regulations and costs.<\/p>\n<p>The last factor, in particular, is what has pushed China\u2019s robotaxi pioneers toward more opportunistic endeavors. To become profitable, robotaxis need to eventually remove human operators. Though China recently <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/12\/13\/china-autonomous-vehicle-driving-regulation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">clarified rules around the need for human supervision<\/a>, taxis without a driver behind the wheel are allowed only in restricted areas at present. To attract customers, robotaxi services offer deep discounts on their paid rides.<\/p>\n<p>Once the subsidies are gone and initial user curiosity wanes, who\u2019s willing to pay the same amount as taxi fares for a few fixed routes?<\/p>\n<p>Struggling to address that question, China\u2019s robotaxi startups have woken up to the money-burning reality of their business. Their confidence was further dampened recently when Cruise <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/10\/26\/cruise-pauses-all-driverless-robotaxi-operations-to-rebuild-public-trust\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">suspended its service nationwide following a severe incident<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/11\/29\/gm-to-slash-spending-at-cruise-by-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollars\/?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAASjJqAi0ArVOJU2OSUceVTpM59cQiRdTZMfvHwrp0JzjxUg6WMWPFdGhzpCKmVpGdh3AZ0HrOXCMJrfZjuCTy9ik4c_vUZ7Kd4LovdCPrz1MkFnzhp5Jrkyv35-v-mL6Fw9io3OfhjbFTnWUbe5Mith1NLx6ejx4vo7VmsrnhgZ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Burning through $732 million<\/a> in the third quarter of 2023,\u00a0Cruise now faces concerns over whether it would be a financial burden on its parent General Motors. To combat surging costs, Cruise is <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/12\/14\/cruise-slashes-24-of-self-driving-car-workforce-in-sweeping-layoffs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">slashing 900 workers, or 24% of its self-driving workforce<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was shocked to learn these financial figures,\u201d said an executive at one of the Chinese autonomous vehicle startups TechCrunch interviewed.<\/p>\n<p>TechCrunch spoke to six current and former executives at China\u2019s leading autonomous vehicle firms, including Deeproute, WeRide, Pony, Momenta and Baidu. Most of them asked for anonymity as they weren\u2019t authorized to speak to the media.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf even [Cruise], a leader in the industry, needs 1.5 operators per vehicle,\u201d she added, referring to a figure reported by The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/11\/03\/technology\/cruise-general-motors-self-driving-cars.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New York Times<\/a>. \u201cThen <span style=\"font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: -0.1px;\">[robotaxis] are still very far from being a viable business. You\u2019d at least need to reach a human-vehicle ratio of 0.9:1 to have a business that can compete with drivered taxis.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[It\u2019s worth noting that the worker-vehicle ratio obtained by the Times is slightly misleading. Cruise\u2019s founder Kyle Vogt, who <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/11\/19\/cruise-co-founder-and-ceo-kyle-vogt-resigns\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">stepped down as CEO in November<\/a>, had subsequently <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=38145997\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">clarified<\/a> that the quoted staffing number included not just remote assistants but also those who performed functions like cleaning, charging and maintenance.]<\/p>\n<p>Baidu\u2019s CEO Robin Li, however, exudes more optimism in self-driving taxis. In a recent earnings report, he stated Baidu\u2019s goal remains unchanged, which is to \u201cachieve breakeven on the regional unit economics for robotaxi operation in a couple of years before turning operationally profitable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another executive agrees that robotaxis are not far from turning a profit. He laid out the math: The revenues generated from robotaxis are essentially the costs saved by removing human operators. Say a taxi driver\u2019s salary is 120,000 yuan ($16,800) a year. That means a robotaxi can save up to $84,000 over five years of being on the road. And say the cost of manufacturing robotaxis is 500,000 yuan ($70,000) each, then every vehicle will make about $14,000 over five years.<\/p>\n<p>The outlook seems a bit too optimistic in practice. The prerequisite for these calculations to work out is the complete removal of human operators. To that end, robotaxi firms need absolute trust from both regulators and the public. The Cruise mishap has underscored the vulnerability of this trust, which can crumple overnight due to one serious incident. Materializing the profit envisioned by the executive might still be years away, and in the interim, companies must find more immediate business models to survive.<\/p>\n<h2>The promise of OEMs<\/h2>\n<p>One logical path to monetize self-driving technology is to sell a less robust version of the technology, namely, advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) that still require human intervention.<\/p>\n<p>Deeproute, which is backed by Alibaba, significantly scaled back its robotaxi operations this year and plunged right into supplying ADAS to automakers. Its production-ready solution, which includes its smart driving software and lidar-powered hardware, <a style=\"background-color: #ffffff; font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: -0.1px;\" href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/09\/05\/autonomous-driving-darling-deeproute-ai-sets-sight-on-europe-carmakers\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">is sold competitively at $2,000<\/a>. Similarly, Baidu is \u201cdowngrading the tech stacks\u201d to find paying customers on its way up what it calls the \u201cMount Everest of self-driving.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe experience and insight gleaned from deploying our solutions in [mass-produced] vehicles is being fed into our self-driving technology, giving us a unique moat around security and data,\u201d a Baidu spokesperson said.<\/p>\n<p>Momenta was the first to pioneer this business model. For years, it has <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2019\/06\/13\/momenta-profile\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">boasted a two-pronged strategy<\/a> of selling ADAS to automotive original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) while using data gathered from those cars to inform its Level 4 algorithms. (Level 4 is an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sae.org\/blog\/sae-j3016-update\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SAE<\/a> term that refers to a system that can drive itself without requiring a human to take control in most circumstances.)<\/p>\n<p>This approach, while scoffed at by its more idealistic rivals at first, has nonetheless given it an <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2021\/11\/05\/momenta-500-million\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">enviable network of strategic investors<\/a>, including some of the world\u2019s largest automotive OEMs: General Motors, Daimler, Toyota and China\u2019s state-owned SAIC Motor. Unsurprisingly, some of its investors, like GM and Bosch, have become its ADAS customers.<\/p>\n<p>The collective pivot by China\u2019s robotaxi operators became increasingly noticeable late last year. Around the same time, some of their American counterparts also showed signs of struggle. Ford- and VW-backed Argo AI <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/10\/26\/ford-vw-backed-argo-ai-is-shutting-down\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">shut down in October 2022<\/a>, seemingly due to its inability to attract new investors. Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/10\/27\/self-driving-cars-arent-going-to-happen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">said<\/a> shortly after Argo\u2019s closure that \u201cprofitable, fully autonomous vehicles at scale are a long way off.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Does it make money?<\/h2>\n<p>Despite the gold rush to OEMs, AV insiders disagree on how lucrative the business actually is. One of the executives believed that the revenues from selling to OEMs could be limited compared to the potential of running a driverless taxi service. Scaled to hundreds of thousands of vehicles, robotaxis could be a billion-dollar business.<\/p>\n<p>The ADAS business, in comparison, seems much less promising, he said. \u201cChina sells about 20 million new vehicles each year. The licensing fee for OEMs is at best several thousand yuan per lifecycle, which means the total addressable market is just several million yuan [$1 \u2248 7 yuan]. Ultimately, the market is going to be divided by several major players because no OEM will risk having only one supplier.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe OEM business doesn\u2019t even come close to the revenue potential of robotaxis,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s also a question of whether consumers want smart driving features despite the hype \u2014 virtually all established and emerging electric carmakers in China are integrating some level of advanced driving automation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA lot of consumers think the feature is optional,\u201d said a former robotaxi marketing director, adding that the relationship between OEMs and their software suppliers is increasingly delicate. \u201cIn the past, these advanced driving solutions were very much in high demand, but now the OMEs started working on L4 solutions themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another executive countered this view, suggesting that the relationship is more accurately described as \u201ccollaborative competition.\u201d That\u2019s because traditional OEMs rely greatly on knowledge transfers from software firms and aren\u2019t nearly as devoted to investing in self-driving technology internally.<\/p>\n<p>Even when the deals are signed, there remains another challenge: OEMs might be reluctant to share user data with their vendors. Again, the abovementioned executive disagreed, arguing that data sharing is a \u201cwin-win\u201d situation for the partners because carmakers want help to debug and improve their software features.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, the executive recognized that building partnerships with OEMs is a lengthy and arduous process. \u201cSuch relationships take several years if not a decade to foster, but more importantly, you need a vision and direction. The products are highly customized. Your point of contact grows significantly as you move to the later stages of joint development. You need a lot of different players within the OEM to buy in, from C-level executives to engineers.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>The other paths<\/h2>\n<p>Other robotaxi players depend on government contracts for survival. WeRide, for example, started its partnership with the Guangzhou Auto Group in its home city in 2021. Their ties have strengthened over time, as GAC <a href=\"https:\/\/werideai.medium.com\/weride-receives-strategic-investment-from-gac-group-to-develop-purpose-built-robotaxis-for-e80683d58d29\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">injected a strategic investment<\/a> into WeRide, which, in turn, invested in GAC\u2019s on-demand taxi brand OnTime. In Guangzhou, a southern metropolis with a population of over 15 million people, the AV upstart now operates a network of autonomous buses, street cleaners and delivery vans.<\/p>\n<p>Aside from the need to navigate the intricate network of Chinese bureaucracy \u2014 which could easily be an even more opaque and laborious process than developing relationships with OEMs \u2014 the financial prospect of the business might not be so rosy after all.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a three-tier nested capital structure,\u201d observed the CEO of a Chinese delivery van company. \u201cGAC invested in WeRide, WeRide invested in On-Time and On-Time in turn procures services from WeRide. In other words, there\u2019s no revenue being generated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Whether this pessimistic view holds remains to be seen, but WeRide at least is exploring other means to raise capital. In August, it <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/08\/30\/with-beijings-greenlight-mobility-unicorns-zeekr-and-weride-inch-closer-to-us-ipos\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">received Beijing\u2019s greenlight<\/a> for its plan to <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/03\/13\/weride-ipo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">go public in the U.S.<\/a>, a route that is now under growing scrutiny by the Chinese government, which fears that cross-border data transfers mandated by U.S. authorities could pose national security threats.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, there\u2019s Pony, which at the time of writing still holds the crown as the <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/03\/07\/robotaxi-startup-pony-ai-now-valued-at-8-5b\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">most valued robotaxi company in China<\/a>. With a history of conducting R&amp;D in the Bay Area, it seems to be the most aligned with its U.S. counterparts in the breadth of its self-driving ambitions. Pony, too, is trying to diversify its income sources as its <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2021\/11\/19\/key-executives-resign-after-pony-ai-combines-trucking-and-passenger-car-rd-units\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">IPO plan remains thwarted<\/a> after it failed to gain support from Chinese regulators.<\/p>\n<p>The company chose the path of self-driving trucks and undertook the endeavor in-house in the early days. But an<a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2021\/11\/19\/key-executives-resign-after-pony-ai-combines-trucking-and-passenger-car-rd-units\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00a0internal reshuffle<\/a> last year that merged its trucking and passenger car units prompted the departure of several key trucking managers. Since then, Pony seems to be relying more on <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/07\/27\/pony-ai-forms-autonomous-truck-jv-with-sany-heavy-truck-in-china\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">forming joint ventures<\/a> to continue its logistics pursuit.<\/p>\n<p>As commercial and funding activities become challenging at home, some of China\u2019s robotaxi darlings are exploring overseas markets. Both Pony and WeRide have expanded to the Middle East, which is seen by entrepreneurs as a relatively untapped market with friendly regulations and ample funding, just like China ten years ago. Pony <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/10\/25\/pony-ai-gets-100m-autonomous-vehicle-jv-saudi-arabias-neom\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">raised $100 million from Saudi Arabia<\/a> to put AVs on the country\u2019s roads while WeRide <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/07\/04\/chinas-weride-secures-self-driving-vehicle-license-from-uae\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">secured the first AV testing permit in the neighboring United Arab Emirates<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>China\u2019s robotaxi trailblazers have yet to prove that their new monetization models work. As funding dries up and losses continue to accumulate, the next year will likely be a make-or-break time for their self-driving dreams.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/12\/29\/china-robotaxi-apply-the-brakes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few years ago, robotaxis were the darlings of venture capitalists in China. A cadre of audacious startups, including Deeproute.ai, WeRide.ai, Pony.ai and Momenta reeled in hundreds of millions of dollars to fuel their costly ambitions. With pockets overflowing, they spent generously on building self-driving vehicle fleets. Their geeky executives, swapping T-shirts for sharp suits, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":65258,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-65257","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-tech"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65257","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=65257"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65257\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/65258"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=65257"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=65257"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=65257"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}