{"id":41104,"date":"2023-09-26T02:29:09","date_gmt":"2023-09-26T02:29:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2023\/09\/26\/jonathan-van-ness-dax-shephard-have-tense-conversation-over-trans-rights\/"},"modified":"2023-09-26T02:29:09","modified_gmt":"2023-09-26T02:29:09","slug":"jonathan-van-ness-dax-shephard-have-tense-conversation-over-trans-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2023\/09\/26\/jonathan-van-ness-dax-shephard-have-tense-conversation-over-trans-rights\/","title":{"rendered":"Jonathan Van Ness &#038; Dax Shephard Have Tense Conversation Over Trans Rights"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.justjared.com\/tags\/jonathan-van-ness\/\" title=\"Jonathan Van Ness\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Jonathan Van Ness<\/strong><\/a> was brought to tears during his appearance on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justjared.com\/tags\/dax-shephard\/\" title=\"Dax Shephard\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Dax Shephard<\/strong><\/a>\u2018s <em>Armchair Expert<\/em> podcast.<\/p>\n<p>The <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.justjared.com\/2023\/03\/08\/the-richest-queer-eye-cast-members-ranked-from-lowest-to-highest-the-wealthiest-have-net-worths-of-6-million\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Queer Eye<\/a><\/em> star was a guest on the program and was taken back when the conversation turned to a tense debate over trans rights.<\/p>\n<p><strong class=\"hidearticle\"><em>Keep reading to find out more\u2026<\/em><\/strong><span id=\"more-1952933\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The debate over trans rights came after <strong>Jonathan <\/strong>and <strong>Dax <\/strong>were discussing if<em> The New York Times<\/em> was more left or right leaning, to which <strong>Jonathan <\/strong>argued that it was a lot more right then people think because of the paper\u2019s content about gender-affirming care.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dax <\/strong>then argued that the paper is \u201cchallenging\u201d ideas that teens should be allowed to take hormones and blockers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSome people are very uncomfortable about teenagers transitioning,\u201d he shared. \u201cHow do we know that the person\u2019s not gonna change their mind? Then there\u2019s another counterargument. If they kill themselves, then that\u2019s really f***ing permanent. \u2026 To even question it makes you an enemy. I don\u2019t think that\u2019s the way forward.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Jonathan<\/strong>, surprised at <strong>Dax<\/strong>\u2018s stance, admitted that it was like \u201cI\u2019m talking to my dad.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s just so many things that are so much more important and we\u2019re over here being like, \u2018Well, there\u2019s legitimate concerns [about transgender athletes],\u2019\u201d he said. \u201cAll I\u2019m saying is what we know about misinformation and disinformation is when you have an outsized reaction to something, there\u2019s a good chance that you\u2019re being exposed to misinformation and disinformation. And a lot of the rhetoric around the anti-trans backlash does have a lot of misinformation and disinformation in it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dax <\/strong>continued to fight back against what <strong>Jonathan <\/strong>was saying, with the influencer sharing more of his disappointment surrounding the conversation when it comes to people who think they\u2019re allies, when they are not.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m a nonbinary f***ing trans person. When I talk to my dad or people who say similar things, it\u2019s hard to be cool through that,\u201d he continued. \u201cI\u2019m not calling you a transphobe. You can not be transphobic and still have thoughts that espouse trans misogyny and espouse transphobic ideologies or beliefs and not be transphobic.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dax <\/strong>did apologize, and said that he did not intend to start a debate about trans rights. It was then that <strong>Jonathan <\/strong>shed tears over it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI could just cry because I\u2019m so tired of having to fight for little kids because they just want to be included,\u201d he shared. \u201cI wish that people were as passionate about little kids being able to be included or grow up as they were about fictitious women\u2019s fairness in sports. I have to tell you I am very tired.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Listen to the full conversation below:<\/p>\n<p>\n<iframe allow=\"autoplay *; encrypted-media *; fullscreen *; clipboard-write\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"175\" style=\"width:85%;max-width:560px;overflow:hidden;border-radius:10px;\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/jonathan-van-ness\/id1345682353?i=1000629044383\"><\/iframe>\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>(function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = \"\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v3.2&appId=145071315902360\"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk'));<\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.justjared.com\/2023\/09\/25\/jonathan-van-ness-dax-shephard-have-tense-conversation-over-trans-rights\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jonathan Van Ness was brought to tears during his appearance on Dax Shephard\u2018s Armchair Expert podcast. The Queer Eye star was a guest on the program and was taken back when the conversation turned to a tense debate over trans rights. Keep reading to find out more\u2026 The debate over trans rights came after Jonathan [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41105,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-41104","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-lifestyle"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41104","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41104"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41104\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/41105"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41104"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41104"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41104"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}