{"id":147436,"date":"2025-01-31T23:30:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-31T23:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/31\/how-james-mangolds-artist-parents-influenced-a-complete-unknown\/"},"modified":"2025-01-31T23:30:00","modified_gmt":"2025-01-31T23:30:00","slug":"how-james-mangolds-artist-parents-influenced-a-complete-unknown","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/31\/how-james-mangolds-artist-parents-influenced-a-complete-unknown\/","title":{"rendered":"How James Mangold\u2019s Artist Parents Influenced \u2018A Complete Unknown\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"has-dropcap\">Halfway through <em>A Complete Unknown,<\/em> <strong>Timoth\u00e9e Chalamet<\/strong>-as-<strong>Bob Dylan<\/strong> breezes through his apartment on the third floor of 161 West 4th Street, working his way through the lyrics to a new song, hopping onto a typewriter to bang out the last verse of \u201cMr. Tambourine Man\u201d or the first verse of \u201cI\u2019ll Keep It With Mine.\u201d It\u2019s 1964, he\u2019s famous enough to get mobbed by beatniks in record stores, and he tools around Greenwich Village on his Triumph motorcycle. Funny thing about that: In real-life 1964, just a few blocks away from Dylan, the film\u2019s director, <strong>James Mangold,<\/strong> was living with his parents, the artists <strong>Robert Mangold<\/strong> and <strong>Sylvia Plimack Mangold,<\/strong> in a Lower East Side apartment on Grand Street and Eldridge Street, existing in an art scene happening at the same time\u2014and on the same island\u2014as the folk explosion, and walking every day to public school at Orchard Street and Hester Street.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAlthough I have no consciousness of my first three or four years, I do remember\u2014whether it\u2019s \u201968, \u201969, or \u201970\u2014the smell and taste and look of New York,\u201d filmmaker Mangold said on the phone this week, a few days removed from his film\u2019s <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/minnesota\/news\/bob-dylan-minnesota-a-complete-unknown-oscars-academy-awards\/\" class=\"external-link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/minnesota\/news\/bob-dylan-minnesota-a-complete-unknown-oscars-academy-awards\/&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/minnesota\/news\/bob-dylan-minnesota-a-complete-unknown-oscars-academy-awards\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">securing eight Oscar nominations<\/a>, including for best director, screenplay, and picture. \u201cI passed the Hebrew booksellers and the pickle vendors and the construction companies and trucking companies and the steam plants and the many languages being spoken all around me, the delis and the clubs and galleries, and the scene of New York is very vivid to me in my childhood. The smell of salted knishes on the corner. And that world was definitely a kind of guiding light for me making the movie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">I wanted to talk to Mangold about how <em>A Complete Unknown<\/em>\u2014and maybe even all of his films\u2014came out of the primordial ooze that was Manhattan in the \u201960s, where he lived for the first decade of his life, when his parents were hanging with Barnett Newman and Mark Rothko as part of a new generation of painters that included their close friends Robert Ryman and Sol LeWitt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Both mom and dad are still actively showing new work, but they\u2019re among the last remaining members of their cohort\u2014Richard Serra, Chuck Close, and Brice Marden were all colleagues of theirs who graduated from Yale in the early 1960s, and all died in the last few years. By making a movie about Dylan, Mangold has brought some of that era back to life, in full, luminous detail. One can bicker about the liberties taken by the filmmaker, but it\u2019s not a documentary; it\u2019s a Dylan-as-movie-star Hollywood picture that plays with fact and fiction like Robert Zimmerman does\u2014and it\u2019s hard to argue with the palpable energy of the period that\u2019s humming through the film. Even Dylan himself (at least we think it\u2019s Dylan\u2026) took to X to offer his support.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">\u201cThere\u2019s a movie about me opening soon called <em>A Complete Unknown<\/em> (what a title!),\u201d Dylan <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/x.com\/bobdylan\/status\/1864381624915231149?lang=en\" class=\"external-link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/x.com\/bobdylan\/status\/1864381624915231149?lang=en&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/bobdylan\/status\/1864381624915231149?lang=en\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">wrote<\/a>. \u201cTimothee Chalamet is starring in the lead role. Timmy\u2019s a brilliant actor so I\u2019m sure he\u2019s going to be completely believable as me. Or a younger me. Or some other me.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"AssetEmbedWrapper-eVDQiB byBkf asset-embed\">\n<div class=\"AssetEmbedAssetContainer-eJxoAx dBHGoQ asset-embed__asset-container\"><span class=\"SpanWrapper-umhxW kGxnNB responsive-asset AssetEmbedResponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__responsive-asset\"><picture class=\"ResponsiveImagePicture-cWuUZO dUOtEa AssetEmbedResponsiveAsset-cXBNxi eCxVQK asset-embed__responsive-asset responsive-image\"><noscript><\/noscript><\/picture><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span class=\"BaseWrap-sc-gjQpdd BaseText-ewhhUZ CaptionCredit-ejegDm iUEiRd cvffOM fNaHcW caption__credit\">By Macall Polay \/ Searchlight Pictures \/ Everett Collection.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"has-dropcap paywall\">Young Jim Mangold grew up surrounded by artists and going to galleries, and sometimes cheering on the New York Jets at Shea Stadium with LeWitt\u2014he and Robert Mangold split season tickets. His first exposure to film of any kind may have been in the West 29th Street loft of artists Yvonne Jacquette and Rudy Burckhardt, who had a projector to show their art films. One of his parents\u2019 closest friends was <strong>Red Grooms,<\/strong> who staged happenings at his studio right around the corner, at Delancey Street and Suffolk Street, and was making the enormous works he called sculpto-picto-ramas, which proved irresistible to a young boy like Jim Mangold.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">\u201cIt was a really wonderful, eclectic, and charismatic bunch of artists in my parents\u2019 world, all of whom were really funky, interesting characters,\u201d he said. \u201cAnd that sense of growing up in something like that definitely informed this film.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">This wasn\u2019t really Dylan\u2019s milieu per se, but there was certainly some overlap. Dylan met Andy Warhol through Edie Sedgwick, a story dramatized in a\u2014to put it charitably\u2014<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dofdqP8CaU0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">movie less successful<\/a> than <em>A Complete Unknown.<\/em> After Warhol gifted him the painting <em>Silver Double Elvis,<\/em> Dylan drove the artwork up to Woodstock <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/miro.medium.com\/v2\/resize:fit:1400\/format:webp\/0*XlzB06psq7Mul30x\" class=\"external-link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/miro.medium.com\/v2\/resize:fit:1400\/format:webp\/0*XlzB06psq7Mul30x&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/miro.medium.com\/v2\/resize:fit:1400\/format:webp\/0*XlzB06psq7Mul30x\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">strapped<\/a> to the top of his car. He later traded what\u2019s <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.christies.com\/en\/lot\/lot-6205147\" class=\"external-link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.christies.com\/en\/lot\/lot-6205147&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.christies.com\/en\/lot\/lot-6205147\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">probably<\/a> a $50 million artwork to his manager Albert Grossman for a sofa. Grossman\u2019s wife ended up selling it at auction, where it was bought by real estate developer Jerry Spiegel for a reported $750,000, and he ultimately donated it to MoMA. Dylan <a data-offer-url=\"https:\/\/www.spin.com\/2019\/09\/bob-dylan-december-1985-cover-story\/\" class=\"external-link\" data-event-click=\"{&quot;element&quot;:&quot;ExternalLink&quot;,&quot;outgoingURL&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/www.spin.com\/2019\/09\/bob-dylan-december-1985-cover-story\/&quot;}\" href=\"https:\/\/www.spin.com\/2019\/09\/bob-dylan-december-1985-cover-story\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told <em>Spin<\/em> in 1985<\/a> that if Warhol \u201chad another painting he would give me, I\u2019d never do it again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">The Mangolds got even closer to Dylan\u2019s orbit after Marden, their Yale classmate, married Pauline Baez, with her little sister <strong>Joan Baez<\/strong> bringing her boyfriend Bob over to Marden and Pauline\u2019s Avenue C loft. Marden said they would all sing songs for hours, and he got along so well with Dylan that he made him a minimalist two-tone work, <em>The Dylan Painting,<\/em> which is in the collection of SFMOMA.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Marden later said this about Dylan: \u201cWhenever I run into him now, he looks at me and says, \u2018Still painting?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Mangold said he doesn\u2019t think his parents ever met Dylan, or at least they\u2019ve never mentioned it, and they probably would have mentioned it. His dad was a big Dylan fan and introduced his son to the music in the \u201970s: \u201cThe cassette of his greatest hits that he would play in his VW bus,\u201d Mangold said wistfully. By this time they had moved out of the city, first to Callicoon Center, in the Catskills, and then to Washingtonville, a commuter town.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">\u201cIt was a town mostly of cops and firemen from New York and other civil workers, people who commuted to New York City for their jobs and lived in the Hudson Valley\u2014and I was the half-Jewish son of two fine artists making art,\u201d he told me. \u201cThat was fairly hard for my community, my local suburban community, to understand. The fact that my dad painted color fields on a canvas with a single line meant I would have very perplexed friends who would come over and go, \u2018<em>That\u2019s<\/em> what your dad does?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall\">Robert Mangold also encouraged in young Jim a love of cinema, as the director\u2019s artist parents had what he called a \u201cliberal\u201d approach to the kinds of movies kids could see: \u201cI saw <em>Taxi Driver<\/em> in its first week, and God knows what my age was, but probably 13.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vanityfair.com\/style\/story\/how-james-mangolds-artist-parents-influenced-a-complete-unknown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Halfway through A Complete Unknown, Timoth\u00e9e Chalamet-as-Bob Dylan breezes through his apartment on the third floor of 161 West 4th Street, working his way through the lyrics to a new song, hopping onto a typewriter to bang out the last verse of \u201cMr. Tambourine Man\u201d or the first verse of \u201cI\u2019ll Keep It With Mine.\u201d [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":147437,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[10574,225,2022,944,1530,226],"class_list":{"0":"post-147436","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-celebrity","8":"tag-a-complete-unknown","9":"tag-art","10":"tag-bob-dylan","11":"tag-culture","12":"tag-timothee-chalamet","13":"tag-true-colors"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/147436","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=147436"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/147436\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/147437"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=147436"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=147436"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/entertainment.runfyers.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=147436"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}