16 November 2024<\/time>\n <\/p>\nPhil Elverum “can’t listen” to the songs he wrote about Michelle Williams.<\/p>\n
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Phil Elverum ‘can’t listen’ to songs he wrote about Michelle Williams<\/p>\n
\nThe 46-year-old singer\/songwriter and the 44-year-old actress split in 2019, less than a year after secretly tying the knot, and Phil has admitted he “got dumped” and now finds it “embarrassing” to listen to the songs he wrote about their relationship.<\/p>\n
\nSpeaking to The Guardian newspaper, Phil – who lost his first wife Genevi\u00e8ve Castr\u00e9e to cancer in 2016 – said: “I made all these life changes. But then it didn\u2019t work, and I got dumped and had to move back home.<\/p>\n
\n“The person in these songs was still alive; I couldn\u2019t speak as freely about her, and felt more protective of her anonymity. I can\u2019t listen to those songs now. [They were written in] a period of hopefulness, when I thought maybe understanding could be reached. And now I know that it can\u2019t. It\u2019s still a little embarrassing in hindsight, just because of how painfully it ended, and how abruptly. The trauma from that lasted a weirdly long time.”<\/p>\n
\nPhil also admitted he underwent more therapy after his divorce from Michelle – who married Thomas Kail, 47, in 2020 – than after his first wife died.<\/p>\n
\nHe said: “It seems like [losing Castr\u00e9e] should be a bigger trauma, but it didn\u2019t require as much therapy.”<\/p>\n
\nPhil has now moved on with a new partner but revealed he has been thinking a lot about his past relationships.<\/p>\n
\nHe said: “I\u2019ve been talking recently with my partner, about the role of the past in one\u2019s present, and about moving forward. I have a lot of layers of past; I have this daughter, and her mom died, and we have some of her things around. And I\u2019ve got this new life, this new house I built, a new partner.<\/p>\n
\n“I feel like I\u2019m in the later stages of dealing with the loss and the grief. It\u2019s not as raw. I\u2019ve found peace. I get to live in the luxury of: I\u2019m going to spend today looking at that cloud passing over the hill and thinking about what it means when a bird squawks at me. I take the responsibility seriously, to find something real and meaningful in this human experience.<\/p>\n
\n\u201cPeople say grief doesn\u2019t end, that it\u2019s with you for life and just changes. That\u2019s true. I\u2019m in a phase now where the role grief plays in my life is giving me this beautiful, deepening understanding of things.\u201d<\/p>\n
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