In a new episode of his podcast “Armchair Expert” Dax Shepard spoke with fellow actor Charlie Sheen about his recently released Netflix documentary aka Charlie Sheen.
The film deep dives into Sheen’s life, from his childhood to the public and private journey he’s been on throughout his career.
In the podcast interview, Shepard brought up the pattern he noticed in Sheen’s life as he watched the documentary, where as soon as Sheen would reach a new height career-wise, it would be followed by a massive descent to rock bottom.
“The pattern’s so insanely obvious it’s, like, ridiculous. The pattern is: you get a ton, you f***ing obliterate, you got nothing, you somehow get a ton, you obliterate it,” Shepard said in the interview.
Shepard then explained that after watching the documentary and becoming aware of that being Sheen’s pattern, he was fearful of seeing him rise to the top again, and even more fearful of being someone who contributed to it.
“I’m so scared for you to be given all the s*** again,” Shepard said, before asking Sheen, “Are you afraid?”
“I’m not,” Sheen responded, to which Shepard then asked, “Does it cross your mind?”
Sheen then answered, “Oh, of course, of course. Yeah, no, I’m cautious about it.”
Shepard then continued, saying, “I even thought of my own role in this, like, ‘do I wanna play a role in it?’ [Getting people] to love you and root for you and let you be back up there, where I do think you have the talent to be and deserve? […] I don’t ever wanna see you on TV again f***ed up, and I literally had to think ‘ethically, like, do I wanna be a part of this process?’ because I now love this dude from afar.”
Sheen then thanked Shepard for caring about him and his journey that deeply.
In the caption of the interview clip, Shepard elaborated on the connection the pair shared in the interview, saying, “This is straight to the top of ‘Best of 2025’ for me. There are few things I enjoy as much as chopping it up with a fellow addict in that specific way we do. Charlie Sheen has been at the peaks of the tallest mountain and in the lowliest trenches Earth has to offer- and he remains. Unburdened by shame or defeat, there is much to admire about him.”
Sheen has been opening up honestly about his past a great deal as of late, with his new memoir The Book of Sheen and his previously mentioned Netflix documentary both having been released in September 2025.
